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Hello all,

I'm just interested in getting a little bit of advice on a 'R. I recently inspected the car but it had a pronounced "tapping" noise up high in the motor (rocker cover region) on idle. It definately wasn't a banging noise, or low in the engine (if that helps?!?). I was told by a friend that this is most likely "an engine tapit issue". I was wondering if this is a common problem, and whether it can be detrimental to the engine? It's clearly not something I know a great deal about, so a little explanation would also be nice if possible? Thanks all!

Also, the same car had a couple of nasty cracks across the drivers side of the windscreen (clearly needs replacing). I rang a windscreen repairer/fitter and was told that as long as the vehicle had n14 in the VIN (which obviously it does) then an Aus spec n14 windscreen will fit straight in. Could someone please confirm this for peace of mind. If not I was told it would have to come from overseas...

Sorry for the essay, I appreciate your time and help.

PS: I tried a search for "tapit", "noise", "rocker", "crack" & "Windscreen" to no avail...sorry.

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it is quiet common in all gtir that they have noisy tappets, because they have solid valve lifters, and are non adjustable. As they wear they become noisy. Shims are available to allow for correct clearance to take the noise away.

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Cheers rubna, thanks for the good info.

Now just keen to know if an Aus n14 windscreen will be a straight swap for a cracked 'R windscreen...

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Sorry to take away from your topic Guest, though my engine is getting a bit noisier lately, how much is it to check clearances and replace shims?

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N14 screen fits straight in, only difference is you won't have the tint (blue) across the top of the screen

Gary

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from the sounds of your post, this is the first one you have looked at?

i highly recommend you look around at as many examples as possible!

while there is always a chance that the 1st one you see will be a good one, there is more chance of that not being the case,

and at very least it will give you some base knowledge to use as comparison...

(as ryan said - they all have the noisy tappet sound, but some can be a lot worse than others - suggesting the engine may be getting a bit "tired")

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Thanks Gary, that's put me at ease.

Shalom, I understand what you're saying, but I've seen 6 in 5 months or so. Perhaps this is nowhere near as many as I should see, and I understand it may take a while to find a good one (I've read that some people on this forum have taken about 2 or 3 years or so), but on the whole the first 5 had quiet engines (hence my concern)...and some started much easier than others. The trouble is that the 5 previous examples had bigger problems on the whole and things that I just couldn't live with (I'm a bit picky).

I'll be the first to say that my knowledge on 'Rs is limited at best...so I'm happy to hear your comments.

Thank you all!

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Shalom (or whoever wishes to respond), may I ask,

If an engine is getting "tired", would this be heading down the track of a rebuild? Or is it simply a case of addressing this problem alone? (shims etc. as rubna kindly suggested)

I appreciate your advice...

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good to hear you are looking around :)

If an engine is getting "tired", would this be heading down the track of a rebuild?

Or is it simply a case of addressing this problem alone? (shims etc. as rubna kindly suggested)

very hard to say,

might be simply a case of high mileage (where reshimming should be fine),

or may be more sinister (hard life - where a rebuild might not be too far away)

as i'm sure you've seen by now, the condition of the examples out there now vary greatly,

and logic suggests it must be getting harder to find the well-cared-for ones like 3-4+ years ago...

:(

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Hi Guest

Not unusual for top end noise,have had a number of R's and few are 'real quiet "

Not sure where your located.

I also have one for sale.

1991 Red 64k klm's with srvice history,umbrella,factory stereo,rear speaker /amp, appears original due to overall condition of car.Very quiet and not modified,except wheels ( OZ Racing Rally full face )

Also got a White Rally optioned one.and my highly moddified RB soon.

I'm in Sydney and both are cheap as I am moving into Evo's

Email me if interested.or just want to look

Cheers .... Del

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Moving into EVO's...nice

Might have to give you a call when I get back from the states Del.

Consider swapping a Mustang Convertible for an EVO ?? 8)

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Thanks very much to all of you,

It's honestly really very nice to post on a forum and get good solid answers to all my queries...a credit to the forum and the GTiR community as a whole!

Shalom, I honestly cannot speak with any real knowledge of 3-4+ years ago, but I'm certainly having trouble finding "the one"...but I'm not sure if this is a reflection of the vehicles available, or more that I'm just looking in all the wrong places?!? Thank you for you honest opinion/s and advice, very much appreciated.

Delboy, I'll have to just consider all my options from this point forth before contacting you with regards to your car/s for sale...however I'm sure your only a post away. I appreciate your offer/s too...perhaps we'll talk soon, who knows.

Perhaps it's a little ill-timed (sorry), but I'm hoping to do a wet compression test on this aforementioned Noisy 'R, inspect the top-mount IC while it's off for any oil etc., and check the turbo for any unwanted movement. For a pretty N/A 'R can anyone offer any further advice on what else would be worth looking for at this time as well. I expect to check all the boots, exhaust, engine, brakes, body...etc. etc. But any tips or problem areas? I know this seams a little too general, but you may just save me alot of money and trouble by typing just a few words...I'd be very grateful!

Wow...another essay...sorry all!

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i'm guessing you're located in Syd? i'd be looking at any forum members GTiRs for sale before looking at others...

have a look through the list of GTiRs for sale here, and pick out all the ones in your state...

whats your budget?

kelvin

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check out the electrics too, drivers side control box can be a real pain if it starts fecking up, windows stuck open and the like, also see how the gear box reacts at highish revs from 2-3 3-4. and furry dice hanging from the rear view mirror, could always be a commodore driver in diguise, be afraid........

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Yes, spot on godzilr (Kelvin)...I'm in Syd. I've been through the for sale post numerous times (mostly twice daily), for the past 4-4.5 months. There are some great vehicles for sale, but some are not to my tastes. Being new to 'Rs I'm keen to get something mostly stock so I can mod and learn as I go. There are exceptions I'm willing to consider, but more with regards to handling and stopping than massive amounts of power atw. Anyone can go fast in a straight line...corners are where it counts.

At the risk of sounding a little rude, I'm not so keen to disclose how much I am willing to spend...call me silly, but I'm just not comfortable doing so. I mean no disrespect godzilr.

I do agree with you godzilr, buying from this forum is a very sound option. Ideally I would like to buy a well loved example from one of you guys than some "punter" who bought the car cause his/her mate said they were fast/fun. I'm open to options...

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check out the electrics too, drivers side control box can be a real pain if it starts fecking up, windows stuck open and the like, also see how the gear box reacts at highish revs from 2-3 3-4. and furry dice hanging from the rear view mirror, could always be a commodore driver in diguise, be afraid........

Hahaha...very nice mcstevo! Yeah, it builds boost nicely & shifts smoothly from 2-3 and 3-4 at around 6 grand (not guilty your honour!). Clutch takes up good and early...no slipping or unwanted shudders etc. Windows work better than most I've seen...no s/roof so no extra probs there. Thanks for the warning though. I was keen to make sure these sort of things worked considering I hadn't brought my tools to the first inspection (yep...stupid...I know)

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You sound very clued up young paddowan, if you find one with up-rated handling and brakes rather than huge power, then your on the right tracks, as you say, it's nicer to do it your self, learn and know whats happened with the engine, rather than hoping it ok, i wish you luck, ps Delboy knows his stuff, and watch out as Sydders seems to be a gti-r target for thieves at the mo, check those serial no's

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no probs...what was your name?

i'd check this car out; http://forum.gtiroz.net/viewtopic.php?t=2342 (if Nathan still has it)

look down the sides of the car...see if there's any mis-match paint...look for accident repairs...if the the plastic mouldings (bumper/side/rear number plate surround/door handles) have been resprayed (colour-coded) ask if the car has been fully resprayed...when and why?

take off both front indicators (2 screws) and look at the support panel behind it...see if its been fixed up after a prang...you'll be able to tell...compare both sides

make sure all lights match up to where the body line is...see if the lines are equal on both sides...a light could be lower on one side...ask why

you wanna have a look at the car first thing in the morning from COLD...see how it starts up...any odd sounds

take it for a drive from cold until temps are up to 80deg...see how that goes

then try to get the car hotter...see how it reacts then

buying a stock car isn't always the best...who's to know if the car had all the fruits on it...and been thrashed around...and only taken back to stock for the sale to make it look innocent? if a car has been modded well/correctly theres no reason not to buy it...if everything is good

you're gonna need to spend money on it to get it where you want it, when you could have bought something with alot of it done already

if poss, try and get a NSW member to help you out when looking...

HTH

kelvin

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Thanks Steve (?),

I'm glad you agree...I'm in this for the long haul. The more I learn the better off I'll be. As far as I'm concerned you can only learn so much from books...

I'm keen to spend time/money getting the handling absolutely spot on...then possibly building upon it, but only so far.

Also, very good call on the way Sydney seems at present...sad news appearing too often. Thanks for all the tips...there's so many people here that are so willing to help. I appreciate every effort that's been made!

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Wow...plenty of great info there...some things I'd done, many I hadn't. Really very helpful Kelvin! I feel I've a big debt to pay to the forum upon joining...the support I've been shown is fantastic! Thanks to all again!

My name's Evan (sorry for my lack of manners).

Nathan does have a very nice car there, no doubting that (I followed that thread closely myself). I'm just so picky when it comes these sort of things. I don't really wish to refer to the things that aren't what I want as I feel Nathan's sale should be un-tainted by my humble and personal opinion. If it has been sold, then that's another story...

I must say, I most certainly agree with you godzilr...it's just as much of a gamble on a stock 'R as a modded 'R in many ways. I'm not willing to rule out modded 'Rs completely...but I'm primarily focused on handling and stopping...

To be honest, I'd love assistance but I don't really feel comfortable requesting it...it's something I will most certainly consider now though. Thanks for the tip godzilr!

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